The five gun control bills highlighting Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan's "GUN DAY" all passed out of committee on an 8-5 vote. Along party lines. Hard to believe, I know. Wednesday, they go to the Illinois House floor.
Here's the scoop. Speaker Madigan is in this to pass these five bills. This isn't just political theater to pander to the far left Chicagoland Democrat party base.
No, he aims to put them on Governor Rauner's desk. He wants to put Governor Rauner in a tough, tough spot (yet again) ahead of the fall election.
Of course, the bills have to make it through the Illinois Senate, but if the bills slip through the House, they will very likely make it through the Senate.
What's more, looking back at Bruce Rauner's decisions in 2017, he's given Michael Madigan pretty much everything Michael Madigan has wanted in an effort, the governor believes, to curry favor with suburban voters.
While Bruce Rauner has said he's pro-gun, our governor has backtracked on a number of topics important to his party.
To the bills:
While all these bills are anti-gun and anti-American, two stand out.
House Amendment 1 of House Bill 1469, is arguably the most troubling. This bill makes possession of two or more magazines with greater than 15 round capacity a Class 2 felony. Don't believe me? It's in the bill.
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possession of 2 or more of these devices at the same time.
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That's 7 to 14 years in prison.
Oh yeah, same bill: If you've got body armor, you're getting arrested. Even if you're just trying to make it home after working the late shift at the convenience store. Or taxi driver. Or pizza delivery driver. On a good guy volunteering at a soup kitchen in the rough part of town. Commander Paul Bauer would never have approved of stripping good guys from the ability to protect themselves with body armor.
Also troubling: House Bill 1664 (Amendment 1). It allows for anonymous complaints to a State Police hotline to report someone with access to a firearm is a danger to him/herself and/or others. The problem (is it a feature, not a bug?) is that there are no penalties for unfounded complaints. There is complete anonymity (even if Rep. Willis can't pronounce that word to save her life). And the law mandates the Illinois State Police follow up on each and every call.
No doubt the anti-gun folks will look at Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and start making calls on family members they don't like. Or high-profile gun rights people like Todd Vandermyde, Richard Pearson, John Boch or Valinda Rowe. The Left knows that Walmart and Walgreens both sell burner phones. That's assuming a person doesn't want to skip acquiring a burner phone and instead pick up a phone in Aisle 12 of their local Walmart and just call out a certain hotline number.
When the ISP initiates an investigation from the call, they may "request" (that's a nice way of saying require) a psychological evaluation from an ISP-approved mental health provider. AT THE FOID-HOLDER'S EXPENSE. Those will not come cheap. And then there's the cost of lost time from work to jump through those "requested" hoops. Failure to pay for and receive said evaluation and you lose the FOID card and if you've got a CCW license, you lose that as well.
So yes, effective cops can have baseless allegations levelled by the families of arrestees. Prison / jail guards can enjoy much the same. And obviously, so can NRA members. Let's not forget: so can politicians on both sides of the aisle. And media talking heads. Then there's college professors and local school teachers with students unhappy about their grades. Who else would you like to get even with?
Remember, the ISP is legally obligated to divert resources to investigate each and every anonymous call.
The other bills:
House Amendment 1 to HB1468 increases the waiting period on black guns to 3 days.
House Amendment 1 to HB1467 is a bump stock / trigger crank ban.
House Amendment 1 to HB1465 is a ban on black guns, .50 caliber rifles and standard capacity magazines (anything that holds over 10 rounds) for 18-20-year-olds who can today buy, possess and use said firearms.
Call your Illinois House member. ESPECIALLY IF YOU LIVE IN THE SUBURBS OF CHICAGO or if you have a Democrat House member representing you.
You might want to go ahead and call your State Senator as well, because it's a pretty safe bet these will be headed to the Illinois Senate very, very soon after the House vote on Wednesday.
Don't have the contact info for your State Representative / Senator? No problem. Here's a search engine.
http://www.elections.il.gov/districtlocator/addressfinder.aspx
Uh, this doesn’t sound good.
No not at all.. They do this shit we are out of here.
That's insane, bought everything legaly, I'm not a criminal!!!
What's wrong with having a hobby?
We R on the Road to Communism , governMENTALS want to Control EVERY Aspect of R Lives !!!!
Funny how governments can just “create” crime by modifying laws and “creating” criminals.. That’s exactly the tyranny everyone lives to say will never happen.. wake up people, it’s happening every day!
They are turning law abiding citizens into felons. This is crazy! I just started getting into guns for sport and a hobby. What are the other bills and what do they say? I’d like to know about it so that when I call I can mention those bills as well.
Why is there this push to ban .50, have they ever been used in a crime?
They are pushing for much more than that.
http://ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=10000HB1465ham001&GA=100&SessionId=91&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=101955&DocNum=1465&GAID=14&Session=
7 to 14 years? Hell, you can bash a kid's head in up in Chicago and get less time than that. Time to start packing?
If this passes, the exodus will pick up pace. I and my family will be included.
Pssst, anyone wanna buy a home? RRPDA disclosure: It's – unfortunately – in ILLINOIS.
I'm leavin'!!!
Good luck paying those retired teacher/cop/Chicago-firefighter pensions.
Your grandchildren are crying in their unborn-ned-ness right now
If I'm going to jail in might as well be for something good, And I do mean a possession of more than high capacity magazines.
I have contacted my pro-gun Rep. Chad Hayes and my anti-gun Sen. Scott (kissMadiganass) Bennett as a part of my LOVE-THIS-COUNTRY-AND-CONSTITUTION civic duty. Please make their phones ring with freedom! We have to STAND AND FIGHT ON OUR FEET NOT OUR KNEES!!!!
If that gets passed, then its time for a 2nd Civil War.
You lost the war way back when they required a FOID card.
That is exactly what I was thinking. I would like to see the legislature drug out of the chamber beaten . This is exactly what it says in the 2nd amendment, a tyrannical government!
So are we actually going to do something about this? Call all you want, they will still vote for whatever Madigan tells them to.
Of course all the anti-gunners are drooling over madigan's support for all this crap as his support almost assures it will get through the house. Interesting to me he just jumped on the ""ban everything" wagon now that his office is being investigated anout harrassment charges. Seems to be working, the attention is now on gun laws instead of harassment.
So basically you go to bed a law-abiding citizen one night and wake up the next day in your criminal. Well this is good stuff isn't it.
When the south said they would rise again, I didn't think they were talking about Southern Illinois.
Why am I not getting alerts from other groups about this treason.?
I guess the Democrats dont like being elected to high office. Not that any deserve High office.
There is also a story about Dicks stopping the sale of AR and AK rifles including magazines. So i guess that means Dicks can go to H E L L as well
I haven’t bought anything from Dicks in quite a while. They caved during the anti-black gun hysteria after Newtown also. Anyway, their prices suck… Rural King is much better, and you can bring your dog in the store and they have free popcorn.
Total infringement of the 2a, i hope this state loves those Tide pods eating turds because that all that will be left to tax or control !! As for Madigan i hope this includes your bodyguards too!! If we can't have them you guys certainly don't need them either!!
If this passes, I for one plan on buying a lot of burners and calling the state police to report people who have these banned items. I think I’ll start with Madigan and move on to every politician who voted for this ban. Then I’ll report their families. Then maybe I’ll file lawsuits against the state police when they don’t investigate.
Realistically, most of this nonsense is going to pass House and Senate, and they’ll override any vetoes Rauner decides to put on them. They didn’t waste any time on these, it’s almost like they had the legislation already written and waiting for the next school shooting.
I have been trying to get on talk radio shows to get the word out and the lines busy. My State reps lines are also busy. So i have been trying to get the word out using emails.
The only good news is Alex Jones just said on the air he is done with Dicks Sportings Goods.
Gun owners are the largest group in the country; we need to let our numbers be heard.
Just because Trump was elected doesnt mean we can rest. Plus we need to keep pressure on Trump.
Those that love liberty must never rest!
It is unimaginable that our government would make millions of citizens who are today law abiding into criminals tomorrow with the stroke of a legislative pen.
This would be tyranny
I have been hesitant to make this comment but I think I must.
The Democrats – Leftists dont want to just ban our guns.
They want to ban us. They want us gone.
They dont care about freedom, rights or law. They only care about their Power and their Views.
Mayors are telling MS13 gangs when ICE is going to operate in their cities, so MS13 can attack them. ANTFA want us gone and Please remember the "KILL THE NRA" sign?
My Friends they want far more than just our guns; they want us gone!
You are so close to the truth, you simply require a nudge over the edge which I will provide.
[Edit: It’s not a jewish conspiracy, sir. Please, not here with that fringe view. ~ JB]
Well now you went and got stupid.
Care to rebut any of his statements, jakebob?
Really, the Jews want to disarm whites? well this white guy is rocking a Tavor (oh the shock, a gun built by Jews for the defence of Jews and their rightful homeland) and has an X-95 SBR on order. Does your mother know you are posting this BS while in your underwear in her basement?
Hey Ross,
Have you looked up the people behind the gun grabs? The NRA even spelled it out for you.
But seeing your zionist admission and love of that ridiculous israeli meme gun, smart money is on you being a jew. I can't possibly expect any intellectual honesty from you.
And I forgot to correct you, Ross: the weapon the israelis use to protect their stolen land is the united states armed forces. And those guys don't waste time with tavors.
No I'm not a Jew, but I am a follower of the son of a Jewish carpenter, who lived the perfect sinless life, died the perfect death and rose to life a couple of thousand years back.
To paraphrase from an old movie…
"You can't judge a race. Anyone who judges by the group is a pea-wit."
In keeping with this sentiment, I'm not going to have a battle of wits with someone who is obviously unarmed in this area.
Hey JB, jakebob and rossberg,
The NRA spelled it out for you. It's the jews, stupid. That being said, you have several choices:
1) Deny it and call me a name without addressing the facts.
2) Attempt to address the facts (this is a thinking man's game, so jakebob probably isn't up for it.)
3) Attempt to address the facts, and in your research realize this is the truth (this isn't expected of anyone in the boomer-class of our civilization, and in fact these messages are aimed at any youth that read these forums as they still have a chance to form healthy opinions.)
There's a very important FACT you need to keep present in mind: the GOP, the conservatives and the NRA have always been called "racist NAZIs" regardless of what they say or do. Professing your love for israel (are you willing to fight her wars for her?) doesn't change that, calling people like me a racist NAZI doesn't change that, putting up non-white spokespeople for the NRA doesn't change that.
Your way is cowardly (heaven forbid I say something that someone thinks is antisemitic!) and has lead us to ruin, and the youth is now busy digging us out of this hole.
So wave your 6-pointed star and cradle your Tavor, it just makes it easier to spot the enemy when this thing kicks off for real.
Wonder where the bastards in Springfield will get enough tax dollers to suport their stupidity when a vast number of businesses and tax paying gun owners leave the state. I've been considering putting up a For Sale sign. If this gets passed, I for one won't want to be the last one to put up that sign.
They are dumb enough to think illegal immigrants and Muslims will fill in the gap.
You and I know that is not going to happen but why do you think Chicago is a Sanctuary City. At one time Chicago was losing people and wealth at an alarming rate. They may replace the people and have in fact replaced those people but the wealth flight is not going to be replaced with Muslims and illegal immigrants.
Illinois is DOOMED, if these bill pass. Madigan doesnt care neither do the Chicago democrats.
The Bolsheviks want more than our guns, they want us gone.
PLEASE REMEMBER the Democrats have been calling for violence since Trump was elected. Now that they have their violence they are calling for our demise. Please remember the "KILL THE NRA " sign.
We will either learn to be active and stand or ground or our enemy will destroy us. Leaving the State may work for a while but in the end the power of the Bolsheviks will catch up to you in the end
George, you are SO close.
[Edit: See above. White Race Warrior… you’re one more anti-Semitic, Nazi-like post from meeting the ban hammer. ~JB]
People like you are the reason the GOP, NRA, and other conservative groups have a public image problem and are called “Nazis”.
John, can you ban this moron?
And people like you, jakebob, are the reason we are in this mess to begin with.
Whose side are you on?
We are most definitely NOT on the side of this rasist anit-Semite.
Hey Ross, are you capable of addressing his points, or do you simply deploy ad hominem? That's a hallmark of the other "team," you know…
JB,
I know there's no hope of bucking your brainwashing, but when things go hot, at least keep your head down and don't get in the way.
No more brother wars.
UPDATE:
The bump stock ban passed.
The bill to raise the age requirement for “assault-style” weapons passed. (under 21 owners have 90 days to sell/transfer their rifles)
I don’t think they’ve voted on the other bills yet.
Ok, I read through the bill that raises the age limit, it seems pretty broad… covers much more than just the standard AR’s and AK’s, it also appears to cover Mini-14’s, Hi-Point carbines and others as well. (anything with more than a 10 round detachable magazine, so in theory it covers a lot of handguns also)
On the positive side, it appears that they did exempt .22 rimfire rifles and magazines from the requirement (as I read it at least).
What I haven’t figured out yet is whether I can let my 16 year old daughter fire my AR-15 at the range with me present without becoming a class 3 felon…
I was afraid that would happen. So there is NO grandfather clause for pre-purchased firearms?
If I had an AR 15 and was forced to comply with the new treason i would disassembly and sell only the lower before I lost my rifle.
I didn’t see any grandfather clauses on anything I read, including the bills that haven’t been voted on yet.
All these people forcing these laws know nothing about fire arms it's ridiculous I bought my fire arms legally. Its not going to stop people from getting guns illegally. Its just going to make it harder for the good guys to get fire arms
It time we the people stand up for are rights lets take this to Springfield and show them they went to far this is what we need people come together united we stand we can't let this happen if they think it was bad in Chicago and other cities when Trump won the election let's show them the wrath of legitimate gun owners c'mon this is it lets start fighting these tyrannical government officials and there hypocritical BS this is a free country let's show them that
You all are idiots