QUISLINGS? Liberty Safe admits to giving FBI access to citizen’s Liberty Safe during Jan 6th raid… consumer reaction chars the brand

1. Number one – don’t buy safes from shitheads like Liberty. Their safes are overpriced junk and don’t hold up compared to the higher end safes by a better company like Champion. Liberty’s reputation doesn’t live up to their hype, though everyone seems to think they are the diamond in a goats’ ass for gun safes. They have a great marketing department, apparently.

   Second – no matter who you buy your safe from, immediately purchase a replacement lock either direct from one of the two primary lock makers (S&G or LaGard), or through a reputable gunsmith separate from the safe manufacturer. Don’t rely on anyone to keep your information safe, period. Learn how to reset your locks, and CHANGE the access codes yourself. Companies are pussies, and they will absolutely cave in the first time someone serves them a paper.

   1. My guess is that for digital locks, there is an additional manufacturer code that you are not aware of, and thus you cannot change. So yes, replacing the entire lock is a good idea.

2. The safe company has no right to assist in any search warrant on property they don’t own and on a safe that is no longer theirs. Let’s say you buy a used car or previously owned house and at a later date the cops want to do a search, does the previous owner get to decide if the property gets breached ? total bullshit. They can kiss a bunch of business goodbye.

3. When the government caught that terrorist a few years back with the Apple phone they asked apple to open it so they could get in it, Apple refused said that the security to their customers was way to important, but its a terrorist you may even help us stop a future attack, still Apple said no. We will not comprise our customers security no matter what. But Liberty safes gives it out. WOW warrant or not I don’t think there is a law that would force them to do that.
   Also need to mention that Liberty makes safes under other names as well so if you don’t want the Government to have your code or if you are in the market for a new safe you need to avoid
   Liberty
   National Security
   Centurion
   Freedom Security
   Fat Boy
   and the privet names
   Colt
   Remington
   Cabela’s
   John Deere
   not sure if there is more but please get the list out
   I expected more from an American made company that uses the word freedom in some of it’s products names even

4. Hey GOP. Are you listening????? The FBI needs more money to conduct witch hunts on your constituents. Are you going to trip over yourselves to help them like you are the ISP?

5. Than God I bought a Ft. Knox safe years ago. I too was in the market for another safe before Gov. Pritzker signed that gun ban. I won’t need it now that I am moving many of my guns out of this shithole state. At leasr the ones I am not burying.

6. If the serial number is on the inside of the door, how does anyone know what it is if the door it not open??
   When I bought my Liberty safe years ago, the very first thing I did was to replace the digital lock with a mechanical one. I worked on safes and locks for many years, and just did not trust the digital one. Mechanical are much more reliable, and nearly immune to failure. There is also no back door code to a mechanical lock. The only combination is the one you set.

   Another point, why did the FBI bother with trying to get a code? There was the other man’s home that was raided awhile back. He was going to give them the access code to his safe, but they went ahead and destroyed it to get inside. Why didn’t they just do that in this case?

7. I visited the the locksmith where we bought a Liberty safe. I asked about the access code and was asked to wait while a senior staff member was summoned. I recognized the staffer as the associate who helped my wife and I choose a safe, this guy knows his business.
   This is what I learned.
   1. Re-set the combination, don’t use the one that comes from the factory.
   2. Don’t register the warranty. The access code is serial number specific, so if you don’t register the warranty there is no way for them to provide a working code. In the case you need warranty service register it then, so keep receipts and serial number in a secure location.
   3. With a warrant the authorities can forcibly open and consequently destroy your safe.
   4. Safe manufacturers often outsource locks so the “back door” does not go away if you change the lock or brand.
   It is my opinion that Liberty’s compliance is only a symptom of the real problem and that if they didn’t provide access that this individuals property would have been destroyed and he would have been left with a mess in addition to his other problems.

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