Join us this coming TUESDAY, September 3rd to hear one from one of the nation’s best criminal defense law firms that specializes in self-defense cases.  Natalia Ogurkiewicz, will be on hand to give folks a glimpse of what happens after you pull the trigger or use other force in self-defense.

If you’re like most of us, you carry a gun so you’re harder to kill.

If you know the law (and how to conduct yourself), you’ll be a lot harder to convict.

Do you know how to handle the aftermath so you maximize your likelihood of surviving the criminal justice system?  It’s be a darn shame to survive a deadly force encounter only to be imprisoned and maybe bankrupted by a Soros-funded prosecutor!

Here’s your chance to get an insider’s view of what happens from the prospective of a former major metro prosecutor and present day criminal defense attorney.  With lots of great information about what to do and not to do following a use-of-force incident.

Natalia Ogurkiewicz.

She’s good.  Really good.  Tell your friends to come out and see her in person Tuesday evening at the Pontiac Sportsmen’s Club in Pontiac.  Dinner and conversation at 6.  Meeting program at 7.  Dinner’s usually very good – homecooked Americana fare.

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Her presentation struck a cord with many and members surrounded her following the meeting for almost a half-hour with questions and comments.

Natalia Ogurkiewicz answers a bevy of questions at SCHEELS.

Here’s a story from GunNews on her presentation in Springfield.   I left out a lot of the GunNews story because of space constraints.

Seriously, cancel whatever you had planned and make the trip to Pontiac.  And to sweeten the pot even more, we’ll be giving away a Tisas 1911 in .45ACP.  How sweet is that?

Nobody wakes up wanting to use force in self-defense. However bad guys sometimes force the hand of good guys and gals. Natalia Ogurkiewicz from the McDermott Law Group addressed the GSL audience at SCHEELS in Springfield in August. She discussed what happens in the immediate aftermath of a use-of-force incident and how to minimize your legal jeopardy.

First she described herself as a former prosecutor for St. Louis County. Yes, the office of Kimberly Gardner, the Team Soros prosecutor. Ultimately, she landed with David McDermott’s law firm based in Homewood, IL.

The McDermott Group handles self-defense cases nationwide and has a well-deserved reputation for winning in court.

Natalia Ogurkiewicz.

Natalia brought the perspective of both a prosecutor and a criminal defense attorney to her presentation. She lamented the increasing application of “headline first” prosecution of people who decades earlier might not have been charged. Racial considerations, politics and the legacy media all increasingly drive charging decisions today, especially with Team Soros prosecutors. Law-abiding folks pay the price for that. Add to that the jurisdictions where (Team Soros) prosecutors have an “antagonistic” view of self-defense and/or the Second Amendment.

“They will twist anything you’ve said,” she explained of your statements immediately after a use-of-force incident – and that includes “how” you said what you said. Were you mad? Angry? Vengeful? Flippant? Take most of that away by keeping your words to the absolute minimum. When it comes to the police, say NOTHING after asking to speak to your attorney.

Ogurkiewicz warned that you have to ask for an attorney for police questions to stop. Otherwise officers can continue to badger question you to elicit incriminating statements.

Furthermore, nothing you say can be used towards your exoneration in court – so there’s literally NO REASON to answer police questions or make any statements. Even if you think you’re 100% in the right, beyond a shadow of a doubt, do NOT talk with the police before you have your attorney present. (For example: See the story of a GSL member stabbed 19 times in his own front yard then arrested by Normal, IL police.)

Witnesses and first responders will write in their reports what you say, and those include medical personnel. So if you need a ride to the hospital to get checked out, say the absolute minimum to the fewest people. Remember pretty much all cops wear bodycams now, too. “Heat of the moment” excited utterances are presumed to be more accurate that later statements. So again, don’t talk to anyone except your attorneys.

She recommended avoiding making the 911 call if at all possible. Let someone else call. So long as someone has called for help it’s okay to go ahead and call your attorney, even before police arrive. If you have to call 911 yourself, she recommended just giving the address and then ask for emergency services and hang up. Yes, they’ll call back. No, you don’t have to answer. The 911 dispatchers are trained to gather information, and it’s all recorded. And you and the jury will hear it again if things go to trial.

What’s more, if it’s a problem in progress, you want to focus on dealing with the situation and not on answering an endless stream of questions from a dispatcher sitting in a comfy chair in a safe office.

Natalia Ogurkiewicz.

Avoiding jail costs big bucks.
If you have self-defense legal coverage, like with US Concealed Carry Association or Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network, you won’t have to write big checks for your criminal defense attorneys. If you don’t, then to hire a top tier firm like Team McDermott, $100,000 in billing on a criminal defense case is routine and they want to be paid up front. David McDermott himself is $650 per hour.

Attorneys, if you have them ahead of time, can help influence whether or not prosecutors move forward with charges prior to any arraignment hearings. In Illinois that’s crucial as with “No Cash Bail,” if you’re held, you’re stuck in jail until trial. Expect that to take months. With self-defense legal coverage, with one phone call you can have your own criminal defense attorney or a recommended attorney on your case within minutes, not days or weeks. And you won’t have to write a $50,000 check for a retainer.

[Editor: Quick reminder… if you sign up for USCCA through group sales, they will knock 15% off your membership for GSL members.

Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network will also allow you to bring your favorite law firm – including the McDermott Law Group – or they can recommend counsel. Mention GSL when you call to sign up and they’ll knock $25 off your first year’s dues and treat you like family.

We don’t get any commissions for sending people their way. Our recommendations aren’t and have never been for sale.]

6 thoughts on “YOU DON’T WANT TO MISS THIS: Natalia Ogurkiewicz, JD, will be at Pontiac’s GSL meeting Tuesday evening – day after Labor Day”
  1. I hope she casts police in a good light even if they arrest you for having a 17-round mag or something. It’s not their fault. Their job is to protect you by ruining your life and draining your finances during the legal battle. Blame the governor, Democrats, prosecutors if they are Democrat. Just don’t blame the police. Democrats hate police so we must love them regardless of what they do to us.

    1. Gipper,
      your post reads just like a “Tranny-Travis/Mary-Jane” troll wrote it, my guess is it/(s)he/they are as hateful towards you as it/(s)he/they try to portray me. Just sayin’, by posting as you, G G. Writing styles are very apparent to those of us who have been posting on GSL’s site for many years.

  2. They better not open this event with a prayer. Matthew 6:5 forbids this in public: https://www.bible.com/bible/111/MAT.6.5-15.niv

    Be a good Christian if you are one and not a phony one. Not everyone is religious. Do you want to alienate voters? You don’t want to be like a pretend 2nd Amendment advocate while giving even MORE support to the ones enforcing gun control. It’s phony.

  3. I saw her in Springfield. Very enlightening. Highly recommended. If you don’t think you need this info you’re imprudent and maybe foolish. Thank you GSL for your work educating good guy gun owners.

    1. I would also like to thank GSL for their continued support for gun control enforcement officers. I don’t blame cops for enforcing the law despite the very nature of them being law enforcement. I blame my political opponents because it’s easier to do it that way rather than question whether my political views even make sense. I mean, imagine claiming to support a constitutional right while also supporting the agencies that are sworn to undo that right. Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I’ll just blame the democrats.

  4. Gipper’s Ghost relays the blame for gun control laws on the Democrats. True, they have all the power in Illinois. But quite Honestly, I have been reading from some fairly reputable sources that the GUN Owners are the real cause of this infringement. Their involvement or lack thereof to greet the polls in modest form was terribly lack luster. This complacent must come to a halt if we TRULY do not like how we are being treated.

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